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		<title>By: Targum Lamentations in eSword format &#8211; Targuman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Targum Lamentations in eSword format &#8211; Targuman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Targum Studies: The Exegetical Method &#8211; Targuman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Targum Studies: The Exegetical Method &#8211; Targuman</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: The work of Christian Brady &#124; Threni</title>
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		<dc:creator>The work of Christian Brady &#124; Threni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 16:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The work of Christian&#160;Brady  Posted on June 21, 2010 by thinkhardthinkwell   http://targuman.org/blog/targum-lamentations/ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Should information be free? (Or: giving away your education) &#8211; Targuman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Should information be free? (Or: giving away your education) &#8211; Targuman</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: John Hobbins Reconstructing Lamentations &#8211; Targuman</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hobbins Reconstructing Lamentations &#8211; Targuman</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Where to begin in The Beginning? &#8211; Targuman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Where to begin in The Beginning? &#8211; Targuman</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Targum Lamentations in English at Targuman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Targum Lamentations in English at Targuman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 23:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Advice Needed: Tg Ruth Book Outline at Targuman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Advice Needed: Tg Ruth Book Outline at Targuman</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Chris Brady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 03:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jerry, thank you for your note! There are a few ways that we can try and determine some sort of Redaktionsgeschichte but there can be no certainty. A few simple tests can be applied. We may compare certain aggadic additions to their parallels in other rabbinic texts. If we have some basis for a terminus ad quem, perhaps references to Persians or certain rabbinic practices, and we have a rabbinic tradition in which the aggadic or midrashic addition occurs that is earlier, then we can assume that the tradition, if not the targum, goes back to at least the date of the earliest midrashic/rabbinic text. 

We might also note that if an addition is based upon a play in Hebrew language rather than Aramaic, it is likely unoriginal to the Targum. This does not necessarily means that it predates the Targum but that is often a reasonable assumption. 

Finally, a very imprecise way, but often employed, for determining if an expansion is a later addition to an earlier Targum Urtext is to see if one can easily excerpt the expansion and still have the remaining Targum text make sense. 

In the end, the best I think we can hope for are very early aggadic traditions and some sort of terminus ad quem and then use those as our &quot;goal posts.&quot; No date can be set with great certainty, and I have not even touched upon linguistic evidence (mostly because I think it is far too problematic for dating purposes, but these perhaps the simplest and maybe even best methods we can have for providing a &quot;ball park&quot; date of composition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jerry, thank you for your note! There are a few ways that we can try and determine some sort of Redaktionsgeschichte but there can be no certainty. A few simple tests can be applied. We may compare certain aggadic additions to their parallels in other rabbinic texts. If we have some basis for a terminus ad quem, perhaps references to Persians or certain rabbinic practices, and we have a rabbinic tradition in which the aggadic or midrashic addition occurs that is earlier, then we can assume that the tradition, if not the targum, goes back to at least the date of the earliest midrashic/rabbinic text. </p>
<p>We might also note that if an addition is based upon a play in Hebrew language rather than Aramaic, it is likely unoriginal to the Targum. This does not necessarily means that it predates the Targum but that is often a reasonable assumption. </p>
<p>Finally, a very imprecise way, but often employed, for determining if an expansion is a later addition to an earlier Targum Urtext is to see if one can easily excerpt the expansion and still have the remaining Targum text make sense. </p>
<p>In the end, the best I think we can hope for are very early aggadic traditions and some sort of terminus ad quem and then use those as our &#8220;goal posts.&#8221; No date can be set with great certainty, and I have not even touched upon linguistic evidence (mostly because I think it is far too problematic for dating purposes, but these perhaps the simplest and maybe even best methods we can have for providing a &#8220;ball park&#8221; date of composition.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://targuman.org/blog/targum-lamentations/comment-page-1/#comment-1088</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for posting your dissertaion. It is a penetrating work. Is there a way to tell which exegetical material of TgLam is &quot;much older&quot;? And if not, how do we know there is older material in it? How does one separate between what came from the final redaction and that what preceeded it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for posting your dissertaion. It is a penetrating work. Is there a way to tell which exegetical material of TgLam is &#8220;much older&#8221;? And if not, how do we know there is older material in it? How does one separate between what came from the final redaction and that what preceeded it?</p>
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