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	<title>Comments on: Technology revolution or evolution?</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Leous</title>
		<link>http://targuman.org/blog/2009/04/18/technology-revolution-or-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-47092</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Leous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 02:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean Brady -- I thought of you twice today.  First, I went to a memorial service and one of the folks who spoke quoted from the Book of Lamentations (she did it in English I assure you). Second, I read Cole&#039;s post that referred to your blog and I realized that I hadn&#039;t read it in a while.

That said, I came across this post.  I agree with your evolution characterization.  I probably use the term Web 2.0 every day.  Although I don&#039;t like that term at all, no one knows what you&#039;re talking about if you don&#039;t use it, and even fewer if you do.  I prefer the term Read/Write Web, although it&#039;s a mouthful and I don&#039;t get it out very often.  The evolution from Web 1.0 to Web 2.0 was going from a &quot;Read Web&quot; to a &quot;Read/Write Web.&quot;

I consider the gopher client and the gopher protocol as the &quot;Revolution.&quot;  gopher taught us that the information didn&#039;t have to be on my desktop or my server for me to be able to use it, making it very different from almost anything that went before it (e-mail and ftp).  The Web/Hypertext Transfer Protocol came later and  became the phenomenon that it is because of the Mosaic Web browser, the NCSA httpd server, and a better addressing structure (URLs).  The revolution was the ability to link across machines and location and synthesize information from disparate sources. The evolution is the ability for anyone to do this without having to run a Web server.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean Brady &#8212; I thought of you twice today.  First, I went to a memorial service and one of the folks who spoke quoted from the Book of Lamentations (she did it in English I assure you). Second, I read Cole&#8217;s post that referred to your blog and I realized that I hadn&#8217;t read it in a while.</p>
<p>That said, I came across this post.  I agree with your evolution characterization.  I probably use the term Web 2.0 every day.  Although I don&#8217;t like that term at all, no one knows what you&#8217;re talking about if you don&#8217;t use it, and even fewer if you do.  I prefer the term Read/Write Web, although it&#8217;s a mouthful and I don&#8217;t get it out very often.  The evolution from Web 1.0 to Web 2.0 was going from a &#8220;Read Web&#8221; to a &#8220;Read/Write Web.&#8221;</p>
<p>I consider the gopher client and the gopher protocol as the &#8220;Revolution.&#8221;  gopher taught us that the information didn&#8217;t have to be on my desktop or my server for me to be able to use it, making it very different from almost anything that went before it (e-mail and ftp).  The Web/Hypertext Transfer Protocol came later and  became the phenomenon that it is because of the Mosaic Web browser, the NCSA httpd server, and a better addressing structure (URLs).  The revolution was the ability to link across machines and location and synthesize information from disparate sources. The evolution is the ability for anyone to do this without having to run a Web server.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Brady</title>
		<link>http://targuman.org/blog/2009/04/18/technology-revolution-or-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-47069</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great! Thanks Cole. I look forward to reading it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great! Thanks Cole. I look forward to reading it.</p>
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		<title>By: Cole</title>
		<link>http://targuman.org/blog/2009/04/18/technology-revolution-or-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-47060</link>
		<dc:creator>Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris ... thanks again for being a part of the Symposium!  I started to leave a comment here, but decided to extend the conversation a bit &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.colecamplese.com/2009/04/asking-new-questions/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;so I wrote a post&lt;/a&gt; of my own.  Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris &#8230; thanks again for being a part of the Symposium!  I started to leave a comment here, but decided to extend the conversation a bit <a href="http://www.colecamplese.com/2009/04/asking-new-questions/" rel="nofollow">so I wrote a post</a> of my own.  Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Asking New Questions &#171; Cole Camplese: Learning and Innovation</title>
		<link>http://targuman.org/blog/2009/04/18/technology-revolution-or-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-47059</link>
		<dc:creator>Asking New Questions &#171; Cole Camplese: Learning and Innovation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of my posts last week over at my friend and colleague, Dr. Chris Brady&#8217;s site titled &#8220;Technology revolution or evolution.&#8221; I started to leave a comment at Chris&#8217; blog, but thought I might work to extend the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of my posts last week over at my friend and colleague, Dr. Chris Brady&#8217;s site titled &#8220;Technology revolution or evolution.&#8221; I started to leave a comment at Chris&#8217; blog, but thought I might work to extend the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Tatusko</title>
		<link>http://targuman.org/blog/2009/04/18/technology-revolution-or-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-47055</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew Tatusko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it has to be disruptive either. But I think that if there is a fear of change, that this is from where that fear stems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it has to be disruptive either. But I think that if there is a fear of change, that this is from where that fear stems.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Brady</title>
		<link>http://targuman.org/blog/2009/04/18/technology-revolution-or-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-47052</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 13:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drew I don&#039;t think it has to be disruptive. I realize that is what Tim O&#039;Reilly (who coined the term) and others like to insist, but I don&#039;t see it as any more disruptive than any other tool or cultural shift. Web 2.0 is, after all, only a term to described what was a new way of using the web. Yes it includes greater interaction, openness, and makes the web more useful. But why do some people believe this has to signal the end of scholarship? 

It is undoubtedly true that anyone can now post anything and anyone with web access can reach it, but this has been true about the web for 20 years. Peer review will remain and for good reason, not to serve as a gate keeper but as a hallmark that the research is sound and valid. Sure there are benefits to this openness, in the old system some very good work might not get through due to elitism, on the other hand a lot of dreck was published solely because of a perceived expertise. More information is the scholar&#039;s greatest resource. 

We will of course have to reconsider what &quot;publishing&quot; means, do online journals count for tenure review?, but most disciplines and universities already began addressing this 10 years ago. 

And let&#039;s face it, &quot;disrupting disciplinary orthodoxies&quot; is only a temporary thing. New orthodoxies will arise. They always do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drew I don&#8217;t think it has to be disruptive. I realize that is what Tim O&#8217;Reilly (who coined the term) and others like to insist, but I don&#8217;t see it as any more disruptive than any other tool or cultural shift. Web 2.0 is, after all, only a term to described what was a new way of using the web. Yes it includes greater interaction, openness, and makes the web more useful. But why do some people believe this has to signal the end of scholarship? </p>
<p>It is undoubtedly true that anyone can now post anything and anyone with web access can reach it, but this has been true about the web for 20 years. Peer review will remain and for good reason, not to serve as a gate keeper but as a hallmark that the research is sound and valid. Sure there are benefits to this openness, in the old system some very good work might not get through due to elitism, on the other hand a lot of dreck was published solely because of a perceived expertise. More information is the scholar&#8217;s greatest resource. </p>
<p>We will of course have to reconsider what &#8220;publishing&#8221; means, do online journals count for tenure review?, but most disciplines and universities already began addressing this 10 years ago. </p>
<p>And let&#8217;s face it, &#8220;disrupting disciplinary orthodoxies&#8221; is only a temporary thing. New orthodoxies will arise. They always do.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Tatusko</title>
		<link>http://targuman.org/blog/2009/04/18/technology-revolution-or-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-47048</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew Tatusko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that Web 2.0 is disruptive to both academic disciplinary systems of social control like peer review which is also a medium for what I would say keeps the pedigree of scholars as &quot;pure&quot; as possible. It has as much to do with disruption of disciplinary orthodoxies as it does the social controls that those orthodoxies necessarily impose on knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that Web 2.0 is disruptive to both academic disciplinary systems of social control like peer review which is also a medium for what I would say keeps the pedigree of scholars as &#8220;pure&#8221; as possible. It has as much to do with disruption of disciplinary orthodoxies as it does the social controls that those orthodoxies necessarily impose on knowledge.</p>
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