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	<title>Comments on: There is academic freedom and then there is this&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: The Friday Rundown &#183; Notes From Off-Center</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Friday Rundown &#183; Notes From Off-Center</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Chris Brady discusses recent issues surrounding a senior art project at Yale that graphically depicts the role of the female body in its relationship to abortion.  Is it art?  Is it academic freedom?  You decide.  Inside Higher Ed draws our attention to a project with four colleges to discuss secularism on college campuses. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Chris Brady discusses recent issues surrounding a senior art project at Yale that graphically depicts the role of the female body in its relationship to abortion.  Is it art?  Is it academic freedom?  You decide.  Inside Higher Ed draws our attention to a project with four colleges to discuss secularism on college campuses. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm...  I am glad I am not the dean in that situation as anyone else in higher ed reading this story said to themselves I am sure.  This quote from Anne Neal I think gets at the right institutional approach, Yale ought to be focusing not on Shvarts, but on the institutional framework that (she claims, at least) approved and supported this project.&quot;

And then there is this statement which is totally misplaced. &quot;The justification of academic freedom was that it would allow people to find out about what was true and do it through scientific inquiry.&quot;  As if good art requires some kind of hypothetical construct and empirical testing.

But you have to bracket offensiveness here and as if this truly met the intent of the program and the goals and objectives of the thesis.  If she met those goals effectively, then the University has to stand by the project even if it is offensive to a lot of people.  Just look at the later work of Dali or the photography of  Joel-Peter Witkin.  There is an entire philosophical premise for the grotesque in art on which I have published an article, so the project&#039;s offensive and grotesque nature should not even be an issue here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;  I am glad I am not the dean in that situation as anyone else in higher ed reading this story said to themselves I am sure.  This quote from Anne Neal I think gets at the right institutional approach, Yale ought to be focusing not on Shvarts, but on the institutional framework that (she claims, at least) approved and supported this project.&#8221;</p>
<p>And then there is this statement which is totally misplaced. &#8220;The justification of academic freedom was that it would allow people to find out about what was true and do it through scientific inquiry.&#8221;  As if good art requires some kind of hypothetical construct and empirical testing.</p>
<p>But you have to bracket offensiveness here and as if this truly met the intent of the program and the goals and objectives of the thesis.  If she met those goals effectively, then the University has to stand by the project even if it is offensive to a lot of people.  Just look at the later work of Dali or the photography of  Joel-Peter Witkin.  There is an entire philosophical premise for the grotesque in art on which I have published an article, so the project&#8217;s offensive and grotesque nature should not even be an issue here.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Halton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Halton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that is quite a situation!</description>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad I don&#039;t understand the artistic mind.  Those folk are messed up.  In lots of ways.</description>
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